Just to be clear I never said I didn’t like you! I agree with you that terminology is a problem. I believe the main issue is that if Ruby had a debugger like Smalltalk’s superman debugger then it would be very useful for Rubyites. This fact does contradict your original point, but I agree, not in the way that you might have intended it.

Overall it’s very difficult for Smalltalkers to look at Ruby and not make comparisons to Smalltalk. A major deficiency in our eyes is the lack of a supersonic debugging Joe for Ruby, or whatever we should call it. It’s easy to get stuck talking at cross purposes. I suspect you are correct the flame war is over, but I doubt I even added a spark!

-Ron

I wasn’t even thinking of Smalltalk. As far as I can tell, from what I’ve heard, the Smalltalk debugger is a debugger the same way emacs is a text editor. Smalltalkers walk around calling Superman “Joe” and freak out when outsiders can’t tell from his name that Joe can fly.